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The CAMRGB Position


7:30 pm
September 15, 2011



posts 1

This is our open letter to CAMRA that really began the whole CAMRGB thing.
We’ve moved on a little from here, but it’s important for context:
Dear beer lovers.
We love beer as much as you do.
We don’t want a war – of words or otherwise.
We want more people to think about the beer they drink and become more adventurous in this world of watery bland lager.
We have enormous respect for much of the work that CAMRA does and many of the battles CAMRA has fought.
However, we believe that many of those battles were won some time ago and that imposing such stringent rules on what is a Real British Ale alienates not only many of the small artisan brewers in the UK but also many of the people who enjoy the beer made by them.
This country of ours makes an extraordinary range of craft beers and we should celebrate them by supporting them.
That means buying their beers and telling everyone else about them too.

We are uncomfortable with the stranglehold that CAMRA and its rules has over British brewing.
The imposing of rules about kegs and casks, yeast quotients etc. are holding back the world of modern brewing in the UK and is definitely alienating many many people in the UK who would otherwise start drinking the products of our small brewers and enjoying them.
There’s a whole generation of younger people who look at the archetypal CAMRA member as a beard wearing, sandal sporting beer geek.
That is a great shame.

Drinking and enjoying beer, sitting in pubs and talking / discussing / arguing.
Meeting new people.
Getting slightly tipsy and giggling.
These are all wonderful and fun and important things to do.
Let’s not hold people back anymore by imposing draconian measures on what is and is not the “real” pursuit of good beer.
Let’s enjoy good beer for good beer’s sake.
Let’s thank all our amazing brewers for the astonishing range of drinks they provide.

Let’s sit down and discuss the parameters of getting people involved.

Thanks and cheers.

7:02 pm
November 6, 2013

Views From The Bar



posts 4

The beard and sandal wearing comment reminds me of a radio interview at the York Beer & Cider Festival 2 months back.  The local station sent a reporter down to 'find an angle' which gave him open licence to try to trash the gig but he did not bargain for the manager of the Foreign Beer stand, his interviewee.

The reporter had already had a few before the digital tape began to roll and he opened with a broadside [now thinking of Adnams!] about the festival attracting the beard and sandal wearing brigade.  Nick looked him straight in the eye and with a smile replied, "So how many of those kinds of people do you see?  What about the women, children, families?"  The reporter looked crestfallen as the next 3 minutes went by far all too slowly for him.

The profile of average modern beer drinker [real, keg and bottled] is not just male between 30-60 years of age any more as the York Beer & Cider Festival proved.  The average beer drinker does not just drink real ale any more.

Chief scribe at, Belgian beer nut and general beerhound. Woof!


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